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[HappyTimes]

Chuck – I appreciate your guidance!

[Unknown Member]

The absolute toughest challenge is to not trust doctors…we are brainwashed since birth into believeing they are gods. Best case they dont fully understand the risks…worst and usual case they do —but will snow you to get you on the table. If you got to a Lap doctor he will tell you all the studies support it as the best modality —-this is provably wrong. Lap docs will also ALWAYS find a hernia you didnt know you had on the other side and you will get double meshed—you do not want to “fix” anything that is not broken. This happened to me. I am pretty damn smart about health and i looked at this closely —but i was lied to…and i was afraid of all the cutting that open tissue repairs require, On its face it seemed like it would be very painful and might not last. It will be painful —but in most cases the pain resolves and the best in the world have a recurrance rate close to mesh. Another thing–all these doctors will authoritatively spout that they have a 1 percent recurrance rate—-i bought this nonsense… its all lies….they are not checking or following up at all. You will discover this if you get a problem —they will not even call you back to discuss it….never mind follow you for years to see if you recurred. So do not trust doctors even for a minute —do your own research—talk to watchful —good intentions —JF….NFG the leading lights of this page. Watchful is a brilliant guy…he spoke to nearly every leading doc…researched this for years…and still got hosed. That is how dangerous this surgery is. I would give anything to have met someone like myself before going into this nightmare. Please take what i say seriously —with any luck you will have a seemless surgery and go on with you life never looking back at this page

[Unknown Member]

Happy thanks…I can feel you trying to find a way to stay in Utah…your docs will make it easy for you. They will tell you the problems with mesh are minor…this is new mesh…it was the old mesh that was bad. Its all lawyers causing the problems. Dont read the internet…its just like the get vaxxed crap that put so many in the cemetery…do not trust doctors…trust the folks here. Once they mesh you and you have a problem…they will not respond and will blame you. Open mesh is an easier operation…the physician can see what he is doing. he is not looking at a big screen and playing with chopsticks. I have not seen any problems with open mesh…but if you get one…they are tough to fix—you may lose your testicles…ahole docs wont tell you this. Fight the temptation to be cheap and local…your whole life is riding on this operation. i wouldnt risk mesh —pick one of the Germans or kang and then if you are a religious man….pray hard. This is NOT “routine outpatient” operation…that is what snowed me into stupidity and trust. This operation can end your useful life easily. It has ended mine…I was about to retire and get married…all that is over…i lay in bed in constant pain because i chose minimally invasive surgery from a braggart known as sam carvajal. Dont listen to anyone on this board who will tell you i am overstating the risks…they are very real…i am in touch with numerous others who were destroyed by this routine surgery. Get your hernia fixed ASAP by the best tissue guy you can find…if you wait…you may be forced to use mesh. Sadly the real fix is never to get a hernia. Useless docs always checked me for one…but not one ever warned me about how difficult these are to fix

[HappyTimes]

Chuck, thanks for your knowledge of response. I’m still new to learning about this procedure. Why is open mesh, much safer than lap mesh?

[Unknown Member]

If I were you I would fix it asap with one of the best tissue guys in the world. Don’t be a cheapskate don’t be a travel phobe. I would select between Conze kang Weiss and koch. Don’t listen to folks that say shouldice is mostly not paiful. There are many reports of chronic pain with shouldice. And it’s a long recovery. But if you go to the best your odds are better and it’s the tissue repair with the longest history of low recurrance. After seeing those conze incisions on oceanic I might be inclined to see Kang. His incisions are 1.5 inches. He is the most fanatical about hernia surgery and doing it right. But 12 surgeries a day makes me wonder. His assistant Stephen is a great guy. He may bump you up in the line. It’s troubling that kang has a 16 percent chronic pain rate. But at least he is honest. Most of these docs will lie to you. If you gotta stay stateside. Dr towfigh may be your best bet. Very knowledgeable and I think a woman’s touch in surgery has merit. She just doesn’t have the tissue volume that kang has. My own research has shown that open mesh has shown zero issues in 75 friends. It’s quick easy cheap and lasting. But if you look on the net you will find lots of problems. And who knows what plastic will do to you longterm. Kang uses very little suturing. What I can absolutely tell you is DO NOT do lap surgery. It’s not minimally invasive. It may put you in the cemetery. Most of the worst messes I have seen are from lap surgery. I was lied to and on it’s face lap surgery
Seems safer because there is less cutting. But under the surface you insides are trashed with giant pieces of plastic junk. I was in perfect health and lap surgery has pushed me to the brink of suicide. I guess I would go to kang and pray.

[HappyTimes]

Chuck… I’m so lost… which surgery i should do for my best outcome, and who should I have do it?

[HappyTimes]

Thanks for your response, Chuck. I’m a 34M 5’7 130lbs. I’m a slim male, with a small inguinal hernia. Small bludge and have some pressure and burning sensation in my groin area. I believe, I would be a good candidate for a natural tissue repair with me being slim and having a smaller hernia. Dr. Towfigh is about a 10hr drive from me, I’m still doing some research before I chose a surgeon. I don’t want to leave the United States , but options still open…

[Unknown Member]

she charges a lot….but money should not be an issue here. I have read account after account of people who destroyed their whole lives in order to use a physician that was covered by their insurance. Dr, Towfigh is a good choice here if you dont want to go abroad. If it was me I would go to germany for koch conze weise or lorenze….or to korea for Kang….but i am partial to tissue repairs after mesh destroyed me. Open mesh may well be your best bet if so David Chen or Dr Towfigh are good bets….Do NOT go to some local Utah yocal to save a few bucks…get this wrong your useful life is over.

[MarkT]

@jamesm

Do yourself a favour and speak to people who rely on evidence, not anecdote…I’ll leave it at that. Consult with @drtowfigh and she can likely also refer you to someone closer if you prefer not to travel.

If you are a young, slim, healthy male with a small hernia, you are indeed likely an excellent candidate for a tissue repair.

I’m biased towards the Shouldice repair and had each side repaired at Shouldice Hospital in Toronto (30 and 20 years ago, respectively) with flawless outcomes both times. I think you will be hard-pressed to get a ‘better’ Shouldice repair elsewhere because their full-time surgeons average ~700 of them per year. Even new and part-time surgeons there will average far more of them than surgeons elsewhere who are not focused on that repair.

There are comparably skilled high-volume surgeons offering it in Europe, but you have some U.S.-based options too, including:

– Dr. Sbayi in NY (trained in the repair at Shouldice – https://www.northwell.edu/find-care/find-a-doctor/surgery/dr-samer-sbayi-md-11513991)
– Dr. Towfigh in CA (https://beverlyhillsherniacenter.com)
– Dr. Yunis in FL (https://www.centerforherniarepair.com/jonathan-yunis-md/).

Regardless of who you choose and which repair, your best chance of an excellent outcome is with a specialist who performs a high number of THAT repair…especially with a more complex/nuanced repair like Shouldice, which is highly effective in the hands of an expert. I would not get a Shouldice repair from someone who only does a handful per year, by comparison. Good luck!