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    Posted by Cookrl on June 21, 2016 at 9:07 pm

    Who are the top hernia doctors in Wisconsin?

    seeker replied 8 years, 1 month ago 9 Members · 33 Replies
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  • Beenthere

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    November 7, 2016 at 5:18 pm

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    In the first surgery we had come to agreed treatment plan of light weight mesh. The Dr. used Proline PMII which is heavy weight. He could not explain why the change. But in the history and progress notes he never noted the agreed treatment plan. About a year later another at the hospital said he had done so few hernia surgeries that he probably did not know what approved types of mesh the hospital used.

  • seeker

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    October 26, 2016 at 11:24 pm

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    Just remembered that you said you did not know. I apologize for re-asking.

  • seeker

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    October 26, 2016 at 11:01 pm

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    Beenthere,

    What kind of mesh did you have for your repair?

  • Beenthere

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    October 25, 2016 at 5:16 pm

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    Cleveland and Knoxville are only 4 hour drive times. Dr Yunis is in Sarasota.

    Good luck

  • sands

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    October 25, 2016 at 4:57 pm

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    Been There,

    Thanks for your helpful comments. I am looking for a surgeon in the near future either in Cincinnati, Ohio or Sarasota, Florida, so I think I have some good options. Thanks again.

  • Beenthere

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    October 25, 2016 at 3:23 pm

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    Seeker, I have not given out the name but some clues in previous posts. The hospital where the first surgery had me see two different general surgeons, my insurance referred me to 4 others in my area and let me choose one in the state I live in. I found none of the seven had the knowledge or experience to do mesh removal or triple neurectomy. I was lucky my insurance changed I could go anyplace in the nation with a 10% co pay.

    I contacted Dr G in Cleveland, Peterson, Yunis, Ramshaw, Goodyear and spoke to each of them at length about my condition. All spent more time than I could believe on their dime. Thank you to the doctors that I listed for being so generous with your time. I also had on my list Billings, Amid, Chen and Towfigh who I did not contact. I did go see Yunis, Ramshaw and Goodyear, all were excellent and I would recommend all three. I based the final decision on I had a free place to recovery at. Go back and read my posts and maybe you can figure out which Dr.

    Not sure if you are in southern OH but Ramshaw I think is in Knoxville TN which is not that far, if your insurance will cover the costs.

    Good luck

  • seeker

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    October 25, 2016 at 1:55 am

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    Beenthere-
    Thanks for your responses. They have been very helpful!

  • sands

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    October 25, 2016 at 1:27 am

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    Beenthere

    Would you mind sharing with us which surgeon did your second surgery.

    Thank you.

  • Beenthere

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    October 25, 2016 at 1:21 am

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    It is strange but I know every aspect of my first surgery but my second I guess I trusted the surgeon and we discussed the type of mesh before surgery but when my recovery was so fast it did not matter which mesh he used. I think both Dr. Goodyear and Towfigh or maybe it was another surgeon who stated it is not so much of what type of mesh but the experience, knowledge and ability of the surgeon with the mesh they use. My thought is The worst surgeon using the best mesh does not make any difference but the best surgeon using mesh that they are experienced with does.

    Again from what I understand you do not mess around with a femoral hernia. I was not too happy finding out I was walking around with a ticking time bomb.

    I am happy with my second surgery but it was totally unnecessary if I would have been referred to a hernia specialist the first time. I asked all of the right questions and got the right answers only to find out afterward the answers were just what the surgeon and staff wanted me to hear and to obtain consent. My sixth sense told me something was not right with the first surgeon but everyone I spoke with said how great he was and I would completely back to normal in six to eight weeks. Go with your gut feeling.

    After my second surgery I was standing, walking and climbing over a chain link fence in 6 days, probably not what the Dr. would recommend but he said do what feels ok without lifting or too strenuous.

  • seeker

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    October 24, 2016 at 11:37 pm

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    Thank you for your reply Beenthere.

    I am in NY state. I am following Dr Towfigh’s forum advise for a surgeon. I really trust and like him – and he really listens to my concerns.

    Did your surgeon use Progrip for your hernia repair? That is one my surgeon has suggested he will use. I swing between being dead sure that this procedure is what I should do to being terrified of having something implanted that is difficult to remove should it need to be. Having such a large femoral hernia at the moment – I need to make a decision before an emergency room surgeon will have to make the decision for me!!!!

    Are you happy with your repairs?

    Thank you.

  • Beenthere

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    October 24, 2016 at 11:19 pm

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    Hi Seeker,

    You can check all of my posts but my original surgery was for a Inguinal hernia which now I do not think I had but I think it was an Incisional hernia. My quote remarkable , world class surgeon who performed hernia surgeries all of the time, would only do mesh. I think he did not have the experience, skill or ability to do a non mesh surgery. About six weeks after this surgery things changed drastically and I think that is when my femoral hernia occurred. The original hospital had me see about 6 or 7 different Drs. with none ordering any imaging studies. I suffered a lot. I was than diagnosed with another inguinal hernia on the other side. Finally after 2 years of pain and suffering got new insurance and went to see three of the top hernia specialists in the nation. I decided on one and when he went in to fix the left side hernia he found the femoral hernia and than removed the old mesh.

    I might sound like a broken record but get and read Unaccountable before your surgery, it will open your eyes. My trust level for medical care is still very low.

    As for a femoral hernia and not being a Dr. is not one to wait around for long and I would go with what Dr Towfigh recommends but a large factor is what is your surgeon is familiar with and what type of mesh they work with day in and day out.

    Make sure you get all of your questions asked. See the slideshow that was posted and I think I did a post regarding what questions to ask. Ask for a copy of the informed consent now to review and ask questions.

    Can I ask what state?

    Good luck and ask anymore questions. I answer as best as I can.

  • seeker

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    October 24, 2016 at 10:26 pm

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    Hi BeenThere,

    I was wondering – as you seem happy with your repair – what kind of mesh your doctor used. I’m also understanding that you consider the doctor doing the repair as important in your success. Any positive encouragement that you could offer – I would be grateful for. Please explain to me why you chose to use mesh in the end.

    I am suppose to go for my femoral hernia repair on Thursday with a hernia specialist using Progrip mesh laparoscopically and even though I’ve been assured by two top doctors that this should be the safe and wise choice – I am experiencing extreme anxiety over the surgery. I am half thinking to go the suture route even though the chances are low for lasting as long.

    I am sending an identical posting to WasInTN to get his opinion too.

    Thank you for your response. Appreciate all of your postings.

    I apologize for cutting in on another thread. Wasn’t sure how to direct my questions to Beenthere. It would be nice to have Personal Message feature on this forum.

  • Beenthere

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    October 19, 2016 at 2:50 am

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    The book Unaccountable will open your eyes to the care we really get. I found every chapter to could be directly related to my remarkable care from my first botched surgery. Love for you to read it and review it here. Starts out with a hernia problem.

    If took two years of battling my insurance company to let me see a real hernia expert. I told them I would pay all travel expenses and gave them a list of 10 or so experts. They came back with a Dr. in my area that I have never heard of before. I was told he was a hernia specialist. Did research on him and could not find any information. I was told I had to see him in person to find out anything about him. So I wasted over an hour only to find out he just passed his boards, never had done a hernia surgery on his own and never any removal or nerve surgery. He also never did any specialized training in this area. I sad no way.

    My wifes insurance changed and we had the option to go to a POS I think.

    I have no idea how Medicare or Medicaid works. My insurance company was surprised that the cost was lower than in state.

    Good Luck.

  • marcello71

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    October 18, 2016 at 7:22 pm

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    So you went to Sarasota, FL I presume..? (Just wink if its a yes)

    I will look for the book ‘beenthere’ thanks. My other question is about insurance though, I have WI state Medicaid & I wonder about trying to switch insurance just so I can go out of state for this like you did. Did you have Medicaid & switch to Medicare..? Did you opt out & pay for private a private insurance plan instead? Why did it take 2+ yrs for them to allow you to go out of state? I’m finding it just as hard to get the help I need paid for…

  • Beenthere

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    October 15, 2016 at 12:17 am

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    I mentioned the legal aspect in case things go really bad like a male unable to perform by botched surgery and a month ago I was talking to someone in the medical field and she stated a friend of hers died during a hernia surgery.

    My first was open by a Dr. who I should have never been referred to. He was a quote hernia specialist that did hernia surgeries all of time. found out afterword he had not done one in over 18 months and one of his staff members stated he had so little knowledge of doing hernia surgeries he probably did not know what mesh was approved at the facility. World class!

    North of Lake Suzy.

    I think if you research both Dr.s mentioned have multiple reviews and news stories about them. My choice between Ramshaw, Goodyear and Yunis was hard since they all were so understanding, involved and seemed to care. It came down to me that I had a place to stay for a week free. I like the idea of a Dr. that does not have a resident and their own surgical team. It was interesting they also know each other. After my first surgery trusting anyone in the medical field was very hard.

    Not sure if I mentioned it before but I called and spoke with Dr G, Goodyear, Ramshaw, Peterson and Yunis each of them at least once but I might have spoken to each of them 2 or more times during office hours and office , after hours and not being billed, very impressive plus these calls lasted over 30 minutes. Totally different than my experience with my local highland ave hospital.

    Again get the book Unaccountable, it was available at one time in the Dane library system. It will really open your eyes.

  • marcello71

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    October 14, 2016 at 10:11 pm

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    Thankyou for the reply ‘been there’. It is too low of a cap for most lawyers to want to handle but regardless I am not a litigous person & do not plan on trying to sue anyone(plus no amount of $ would make things better, I don’t care about $ all I care about is getting my health & life back)…
    I understand you had a good outcome from your removal ‘been there’, but was your mesh lap or open placed?
    I also see your hesitance to state who did the removal & although I am very interested in knowing, I respect your privacy. So you said it was one of 2 in Fl that would be either Yunis or Ramshaw. It would really help me to know another good outcome came from the surgeon I think you went to. If I ask, we can use code names if you’d like… Was it ‘Big Red’? Was it the one of those 2 surgeons that recently relocated from Fl? ‘The shaw’?(too obvious?).
    Let’s try this, was your surgery done in celebration Florida or Daytona Beach Florida?

  • drtowfigh

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    October 14, 2016 at 9:12 pm

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    The surgeons must do at least a handful of mesh removals. In your case, that would be a handful of laparoscopic mesh removals.

    None in Chicago.

    I meant Knoxville TN, not Kentucky.

  • Beenthere

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    October 14, 2016 at 8:33 pm

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    Hi Marcello71,

    Sorry to hear your ordeal has not moved forward. It is hard after your first surgery goes bad and than no one knows what to do to fix it and you have to fight for every bit of help you can get to resolve the pain and suffering and get your life back.

    Ramshaw, I think is up and practicing at UT not that much further than Kentucky. Enjoy a meal at Calhoun’s On The River before surgery and than get a place in the Smoky’s near Gatlinburg to recovery for the week. Dr G is in Cleveland or if you can get to see Goodyear, Chen, Yunis or Towfigh. It took me 2 years battling my insurance company and finally I had a chance to change insurance to see anyone in the nation but with a 4 figure deductible. My recovery after my second surgery by a real hernia expert was amazing. I could have flown home that day and I was climbing over a chain link fence within 6 days. I am sure not recommended but the Dr. never told me I couldn’t do it but I felt so much better. Your recovery and outcome could be very different.

    Your comment about research was very interesting, since this also happened to me at the same facility but different department. Dr. said if I(Dr) could get research money I would learn and do this specific procedure. He would not even attempt it and this being a non invasive procedure that was being preformed at an athletic club in town at the time. Very world class!

    Also in Wisconsin there is a little known law that protects state employees against lawsuits with a cap of a whopping $250,000. UW Health is part of the state of Wisconsin. So ask the Dr. if they would sign a waiver of their rights under that provision. If not your legal rights as a patient are greatly reduced, very few lawyers will take a malpractice case with such a small settlement.

    Good luck. Beenthere!

  • marcello71

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    October 14, 2016 at 7:10 pm

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    Who in Kentucky? No one in Chicago? How many lap inguinal mesh removals does a surgeon need to perform before you would classify them as capable of something like mine?

  • drtowfigh

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    October 14, 2016 at 6:51 pm

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    Marcello71,
    You correctly point out that putting in mesh requires a different set of skills than taking out mesh. The number of surgeons experienced in mesh removal is very low. Maybe less than a dozen in the US.
    I don’t know of any more in Wisconsin. Next closest to you may be Kentucky. :unsure:

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