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Watchful exactly….now consider Kang doing 12 surgeries per day….i would bet that Stephen could squeeze you into the front if we went…they roll out the red carpet for foreighners…but still…if you have to do 12 surgeries per day….maybe you cut some corners? Grishckan is another assembly line guy…peterson same thing…and he is downright nasty…I like some of the reports about Koch and weise that i found online….Koch personally visits all his patients at their hotel the next day…Wiese was noted to tell some folks that he would take his time and do it right…I am guessing you got some warm fuzzy feelings about Conze —this kind of stuff might make the difference. I have often thought of offering these doctors a second full fee…if the can fix me without chronic pain….i dont know how to incentivize them to do their best.