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Totally agree on your points. And the fact that the mesh companies don’t have to any clinical trials and can push it through the FDA through a special process is even more disturbing. I’m the perfect model for all the arguments-I have an open placed mesh on my right side that has been pretty good, I have had obviously the mesh removed from my left side which has ruined a part of my life and I had a small umbilical hernia that was seen up during the initial left side laparoscopic repair and I don’t or never feel a thing. Never would of know that pure tissue repair was even done.