Good intentions

I don’t know enough to guess on the details. But I think that, basically, mesh removal involves cutting through scar tissue, wherever it is, to get the mesh out. Because the theory of mesh incorporation is that it gets covered in scar tissue. So all mesh removals involve scar tissue.

I would guess that with a laparoscopic removal the surgeon…[Read more]

That is a very nice Facebook page @cshelter (I notice that your old name is necessary for notification. Not good, people will forget). As I was looking through it I thought about our current social environment and how easy it would be to get blocked by Facebook, due to a complaint from one of the big corporations. Something to consider. I have…[Read more]

@baris thank you for following up with your results. You are one of the few people who has both types of hernia repair at the same time.

For removing the mesh that you have, behind the rectus muscle, that is the normal placement for a laparoscopic implantation, and for certain “anterior” approach open methods. It’s normal to have it there. The…[Read more]

That’s good to hear. You might try stairs. It’s similar exertion but a different type of motion. Less leaning forward. I had good results with stairs when I was trying to make my mesh work.

I am still not clear on what you have. I thought that you had a failed Desarda procedure, and now have a mesh implant. Mesh, and the scar tissue, will…[Read more]

And here is the white paper reporting the results of the seven surgeon panel discussion.

https://www.telabio.com/assets/download/White-Paper-Mesh-Performance.pdf

Excerpt below, their Consensus Statement. It is all familiar, but they are still disingenuous about inguinal hernia repair problems. Deflecting to lawsuits from transvaginal mesh.…[Read more]

It’s very odd that the paper does not reference Dr. Ferzoco’s June 2018 paper in which he reports early results of Ovitex usage on 31 humans. Even though Dr. Ferzoco is a co-author of this paper. How could that not be relevant? That is one and half more years of time in humans that could be reported on. Three to four years total. Maybe those…[Read more]

Actually their market literature discusses a 31 human patient study already done. These two products might be variations on that material. Looks like they have added layers. “1S” has six, the other, tried inthe 31 humans, has three, I think.

Here is the Hernia Journal…[Read more]

Here is more recent news about TELA Bio’s products. Interesting that they need to point out the problems with synthetic mesh in order to show the proposed superiority of their products. Focused science.

The HERNIA Journal article should be out there somewhere. Might have to pay to read it…[Read more]

Here are the TELA Bio links.

https://www.telabio.com/

https://www.telabio.com/ovitex.html#portfolio

https://www.telabio.com/assets/download/OviTex%20Published%20Clinical%20Data.pdf

It looks like posts can still get blocked if too many links are included. I’ll try to break mine up.

I have posted about TELA Bio products before. It’s still very early days for their product line. One year of data for inguinal hernias and only 32 patients. Their literature re inguinal hernias says that nobody reported chronic pain but it’s…[Read more]

I missed the one month for $9.99 part. Even better if you’re a fast reader.

Have you had a second opinion? Dr. Towfigh just posted a comment about being able to “sew” laparoscopically using robotics. That seems like what you would need and I don’t think that robotic lap would require cutting away your obliques. I can’t imagine obliterating the obliques for anything but a life-saving effort. Seems like too much. @drtow…[Read more]

I think that she meant the “Post-Op Recovery” topic by rosenrubies.

Post-Op Recovery: What to Expect

Actually, the Mayo Clinic does have something going on, a groin pain after hernia repair study. The description is almost void of useful detail though. Not even a starting date.

https://www.mayo.edu/research/clinical-trials/cls-20417927#overview

https://www.mayo.edu/research/faculty/farley-david-r-m-d/bio-00026525

If you, @jnomesh are actually in touch with the family you might try to get them away from the “name brand” clinics. The Mayo Clinic is a major “mesh clinic”. That is where both the surgeon who implanted mesh in me and the one who took it out did their residency, and learned how to implant mesh. I don’t think that the Mayo Clinic is at the…[Read more]

It doesn’t look possible. I was going to post the old herniasurge page with the
J&J logo (I copied it and saved the image) but there’s no option for attaching or pasting images.

But I did find it on the “Wayback Machine”. Internet archive.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180809000128/http://herniasurge.com/

Cshelter, I apologize for taking over your Topic. If you start a new one I will stay out, and leave you alone. I learn new things though, each time somebody opens a new Topic and need to follow them out. I can’t edit my older posts.

@cshelter

I just found what is essentially the updated version of that 2014 paper. Things are much more clear, pain is mentioned 26 times instead of just 2. Herniasurge still looms over the effort though.

Worth reading.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5981671/

Here is the Herniasurge page, with their mesh logo. Those that might have seen…[Read more]