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Thx watchful. And if you send me your pay pal I can send you the reward on kang. I so wish I had seen your many posts before making my disastrous decision. It all makes so much sense. So can I ask you one more thing. Given all you know is it your opinion that Dr Conze is the best bet for a future tissue repair all things considered? His website is very impressive. I too am hoping I can recover from mesh destruction. My second surgery with belyansky went flawlessly. But I want to have the best in the world lined up if I need further surgery