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@Chuck, it seems you’re in deep torment about choice of surgeon. It is difficult I agree. I don’t agree with you punishing yourself about your previous mesh surgery. It must be true that thousands have the same operation but somehow escape into nirvana. I’m sure I would not end up well, for I never win lotteries and things like that. However in the case of my surgeon choice of Kang I lucked out. About this I don’t agree with Watchful though I applaud his great contributions here. Me, I’ve been in no pain 14 mos. out. You can go to Kang confidently. Painless according to my experiences. Recurrence chance greater? Who says? Their data is likely biased.