I always read passionate advice and here solidarity seems to prevail, without lies. The excellent surgeons you mentioned are definitely top notch. But – while patients with recent hernias make a mistake in having surgery without looking for a mesh – there are also those who linger too much and – while the former could have avoided the mesh – the latter are often forced to receive a mesh, even from one of the surgeons you mentioned . This is because there are standards of measurement, and the choice of surgeon is always attentive to recurrence