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  • Mesh debate in the United Kingdom Parliament

    Posted by Good intentions on January 9, 2020 at 10:38 pm

    I just found this interesting transcript from the UK. Everyone is reading from the same internet I think. Vast majority, mesh is recommended, people who had a good repair recommend it even after they hear the stories and see the numbers. Objectivity is hard. At least they are discussing it. I would guess though that the same outside influences are at work to control the narrative.

    I am going to see if I can find out more about followup from this introduction. I don’t know much about how Parliament works.

    https://www.theyworkforyou.com/whall/?id=2019-09-05a.175.4

    drtowfigh replied 4 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
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  • drtowfigh

    Moderator
    January 12, 2020 at 7:15 am

    :rolleyes:

  • UhOh!

    Member
    January 11, 2020 at 8:05 pm
    quote drtowfigh:

    The European Commission recommendations were made without input from the hernia specialists. *♀️

    And what ever went wrong when an under-informed legislative body took a position on medical science and practice?

  • drtowfigh

    Moderator
    January 11, 2020 at 4:33 pm

    No one from the specialty societies for hernia (EHS, EAES) wee involved.

  • Alephy

    Member
    January 11, 2020 at 10:33 am

    You mean only general doctors were involved? Or just statisticians? As for the animal testing (which makes me shudder) animal behaviour such as normal movement will be impaired by pain….in any case it is clear that these implants should be thoroughly tested BEFORE being used! Personally I would also make the penalty/ fines for breach of conduct much more severe! To the point of making any fraud a penal crime ie people from the responsible companies should go and stay in jail

  • drtowfigh

    Moderator
    January 10, 2020 at 11:12 pm

    The European Commission recommendations were made without input from the hernia specialists. ‍♀️

  • UhOh!

    Member
    January 10, 2020 at 10:27 pm
    quote Good intentions:

    Thank you for that information Dr. Towfigh. It looks like a concession but, since the problem is pain, and animals cannot describe their pain, I don’t see a direct link to making things better. The animal studies will show tissue ingrowth and other things that might or might not be tied to pain and discomfort.

    It seems like the giving of something of little value. It’s a start though.

    Perhaps measurements of unacceptably high inflammatory reactions would be a proxy for such? But in general, I agree.

  • Good intentions

    Member
    January 10, 2020 at 7:14 pm

    Thank you for that information Dr. Towfigh. It looks like a concession but, since the problem is pain, and animals cannot describe their pain, I don’t see a direct link to making things better. The animal studies will show tissue ingrowth and other things that might or might not be tied to pain and discomfort.

    It seems like the giving of something of little value. It’s a start though.

  • drtowfigh

    Moderator
    January 10, 2020 at 8:47 am

    Effective May 2020, the European Commission has reclassified mesh as high risk and all companies must show animal data to support use of their products.

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