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Post op nerve pain
I have been to numerois drs over past 2 plus years trying to find answer to my pain. Finally found surgeon who recognized my hernia symptoms. I had surgery 3 days ago. He found and repaired a total of 5 hernias inguinal umbilical and femoral.The second day i noticed one of my original symptoms burning groin and inner thigh pain returned. Surgeon told me its normal for this pain to take time to heal. I know its early in my recovery so just interested in other opinions.
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Jnomesh Thank you for telling your story ! Yes they dont know what to say or what to do…because in order to fix it ..they need to go back into the mess they already created and re do it with open surgery ..But most of them know just how to do short cut with laparoscopic mash inserting ..and no way they know how to reverse.. i believe it is a good money making process for them… that ruined so many lives.Hernia surgery isn’t rocket sincere..was done without problems in the past for decades …
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Dr. Zoland was the surgeon who did my original hernia surgery and like you I found him very compassionate and he diagnosed me with a hernia that for a year no one else could.
however the mesh surgery didn’t go well.
i went back to him 3-4 times over the first year complaining of pain and not feeling right-my stomach would get bloated also.
Alm he would do was check for a recurrence which there was none. Eventually ordered some tests (MRI) which didn’t show much.
At a loss he turned the attention to my back.
like the majority of surgeons out there outside of a recurrence or maybe nerve entrapment surgeons push you away when pain doesn’t go away and either know and don’t want to concede or don’t know the dangers of mesh. I have come across a few other people that went to Zoland and issues afterwards.
anyways it turned out my mesh had folded up into a rock hard ball-and took years for it to finally be diagnosed by a surgeon who has experience with mesh issues.
it had to be removed in a very difficult and long operation.
i think it is a sad state of affairs the 99.5% of surgeons no matter how nice, compassionate and even skilled don’t recognize or no what to do when mesh goes bad.
There are many people out there like myself that are told their pain issues aren’t due to mesh and are pushed away and are made to believe that it isn’t the mesh causing the problems.
this is why I believe the pain or chronic pain issues due to mesh percentages are much higher than reported-Bc we are told it’s not the mesh.
there needs to be more pressure on surgeons and the mesh industry on the usage of the mesh.
if something meant to be permanent is being put into people and the surgeons aren’t trained in removing the mesh this is a big problem.
Good intentions you are so right and hit it in the head-Zoland authored a paper on chronic pain with little mention of mesh being the source or cause of the pain. Very ironic -
Also search “Mark Zoland, MD | Hernia Surgeon | Pelvic Health Summit” using Google and it should be the first video result, that I referred to above.
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Dr. Zoland seems like he has the approach to his work that we’d all like to see in our doctors. He offers very good advice in the video, about asking questions and pressing forward until you’re where you want to be, that anybody seeking help could follow.
It’s a little bit ironic though that he is primary author on a paper that starts out by discussing chronic pain but does not mention mesh as the primary source of chronic pain after surgery. And he uses large areas of mesh for his repairs. If he could expand his expertise in to addressing that area of chronic pain he could probably help with the problem. The mental conflict is probably great though, so I can understand trying to avoid it. He seems to be firmly in the laparsocopic repair with mesh camp. I don’t see how anyone can talk about chronic pain without mentioning mesh as a source. It’s not mentioned anywhere on their web site either.
Good luck with your recovery. Many people do just fine with mesh repair, so don’t let my comments make you nervous. Dr. Zoland seems like a good surgeon.
This is a second attempt too post. I got “Unapproved” on my last try. Search “Referral Patterns for Chronic Groin Pain and Athletic Pubalgia/Sports Hernia” on Google and it should be the first result.
https://glsnyllp.com/blog/what-is-an-inguinal-hernia-and-how-should-it-be-repaired/
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Dr. Zoland seems like he has the approach to his work that we’d all like to see in our doctors. He offers very good advice in the video, about asking questions and pressing forward until you’re where you want to be, that anybody seeking help could follow.
It’s a little bit ironic though that he is primary author on a paper that starts out by discussing chronic pain but does not mention mesh as the primary source of chronic pain after surgery. And he uses large areas of mesh for his repairs. If he could expand his expertise in to addressing that area of chronic pain he could probably help with the problem. The mental conflict is probably great though, so I can understand trying to avoid it. He seems to be firmly in the laparsocopic repair with mesh camp. I don’t see how anyone can talk about chronic pain without mentioning mesh as a source. It’s not mentioned anywhere on their web site either.
Good luck with your recovery. Many people do just fine with mesh repair, so don’t let my comments make you nervous. Dr. Zoland seems like a good surgeon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC0msBF8ufM
https://glsnyllp.com/blog/what-is-an-inguinal-hernia-and-how-should-it-be-repaired/
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Sorry, yes I saw Dr Zoland in nyc. He is an excellent surgeon and wonderful compassionate person. I actually had a mixed bag of hernias. Umbilical inguinal femoral and obturator so I am sure I am not the normal case. Now I understand why my healing will take some time. Thank god I found him. Unbelievable that I was ignored and this was missed by so many previous doctors. They made me feel like I was crazy or making it up. I feel so vindicated and it makes me want to cry when I think about the shell of a life i have been living the past 2 and half years. I have no idea how I managed to make it to work every day gone 13 hours a day between work and long commute. think awareness needs to be spread to women about these hidden hernias so people dont suffer for years like I did and many others.
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[USER=”1435″]Karen[/USER] Can you share the name of your surgeon? It’s always good to know the names of doctors who are able to diagnose and treat the difficult hernia cases.
How are you feeling now? Any different?
Try to be patient if you had chronic pain prior to surgery. The nerves may have become sensitive from feeling frequent/constant pain, and sometimes it can take a while for that to settle down.
Some other potentially helpful tips for reducing chronic pain:
– Anything you can do that is distracting and/or mentally engaging and challenging will be beneficial to reduce chronic pain over time, as mentally challenging tasks tend to require a lot of focus and thus recruit neurons in the brain. Things like sudoku, math problems, sudoku, challenging puzzles, learning a foreign language, learning computer programming, learning a musical instrument, etc, the more mentally challenging the task the better for this purpose.
– Alpha-lipoic acid and Vitamin C taken every day, as research has shown those can be beneficial in reducing nerve pain over time. Talk to your doctor and surgeon first, make sure these are suitable for you and your current health.
– If you’re in a medical marijuana state, some people report positive experiences with medical marijuana reducing chronic pain, also usually over time. This is an ongoing area of research, so it would also be wise to consult your doctor first.
– Consider working with a therapist who focuses on chronic pain, they can be very helpful
Best of luck and keep us updated on your progress!
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I had laproscopic surgery with mesh. I actually went to a pelvic specialist who told me that she thinks I had hernias and sent me to the hernia surgeon who is one of the top surgeons . He was able to diagnose me pretty quickly and was first person who I had confidence in.I am just trying to learn what normal post op pain is when you had pain preop for over 2 years.
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You might get more details on the procedure used. There might be some useful details there. There are many different ways that individual surgeons do things, on top of the many different ways a hernia can be repaired.
There are members here also that would probably love to know who your surgeon was. Apparently, and unfortunately, your difficulty in finding a surgeon who understood your problem is not uncommon. Can you tell more about your search?
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