ARE THERE NO POSITIVE RESULTS FROM HERNIA MESAH REMOVAL????

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    • #29510
      paul
      Participant

      seems like there are tons of horror stories about having hernia mesh removed and it scary!!! are there no “happy” endings or positive results anywhere in the universe???

    • #29511
      drtowfigh
      Keymaster

      Read articles and presentations provided by surgeons who perform mesh removal. Success rates (ie, cure) range in 70-85% range.

      • #29566
        SpringsMan
        Participant

        Dr. Towfigh,

        How do you measure success? Do you follow up with patients for a certain time. Are your patients willing to post their success stories here?

        Thank you for the forum.

      • #29587
        drtowfigh
        Keymaster

        I measure success as cure of pre-mesh removal symptoms. Yes, I follow all my patients and they are also logged in to the ACHQC National database for followup.

    • #29512
      paul
      Participant

      i’ve read many of those here, in SAGES, and elsewhere. i was wondering about real patients’ experiences since it’s patients who are posting all the hour stories here.

    • #29513
      paul
      Participant

      horror stories

    • #29514
      Good intentions
      Participant

      I have a positive story. I have linked it below.

      You won’t find the medical professionals talking about mesh removal much. Mesh problems are not supposed to exist, therefore mesh removal should not be needed, is what they are all trained to believe.

      Some surgeons have given up removing mesh, possibly because recovery takes so long and patients are expecting to get back the life they had before the mesh was used. Removing the mesh does not “undo” the damage, it just increases the odds of feeling better.

      I had mesh removed three and a half years ago and am finally feeling like I am back to where I was six and half years ago before I had the mesh implanted. Six and a half years of dealing with a problem created by “state-of-the-art” hernia repair.

      Don’t try to simplify things down to just “mesh removal” if you are having mesh problems. The variety of materials and methods used for mesh implantation and the variety of methods used for removal are very broad. You need to understand what was done to you and find the right surgeon to remove the mesh, if that is necessary. If your mesh implantation was recent you might want to wait to see if the problems resolve. Good luck.

      Healing from mesh removal surgery

    • #29518
      paul
      Participant

      Good Intentions. thanks so much for the info. i read your story last week and remembered it well. my bilateral inguinal hernias and a femoral hernia were lap repaired 6/19 here using bilateral Bard large 3d MAX in bend oregon. never felt like it was a success and doc said my pain was normal and it would take time for scar tissue to heal. several post op visits later, same stray and no improvement, in fact got worse. after much research and another hernia surgeon in CA who ordered more Ultrasounds, the conclusion was, mesh is working but you may be one of the 30% of patients who have issues with the mesh, not toxic rejection, just chronic pain. i was referrd to dr chen at ucla, dr brown and dr Peterson as possible docs who might be able to remove my mesh. i narrowed it down to dr chen and he did physical exam as well as new MRI and read images himself. his opinion is that my mesh had folded at top, clamshell, and while i don’t have nerve pain per se, it’s more of a foreign body pain between my ASIS and area between top of pelvis and navel. he suggested that if i couldn’t live with my 6-8 level pain 24/7, then he’d attempt to remove it all. i’m scheduled to have that procedure on 7/28. i’ve had 2 conversations with him since april and i feel very comfortable with him, his knowledge, his experience and his approach, which is, we’ll try to get all of the mesh without impacting the 3 major nerves, but understanding that that may not be possible. also, if the small hernias are still present, he may have to use smaller Program mesh to cover them. i feel like i’ve made a good choice in moving forward with the procedure, but having read all the “horror” stories on this site and others, of course i’m anxious, knowing that either the good news stories don’t get told or the “success rate” is lower than 70-85% as suggested. i’m not going to change my decision, but just needed to know what to expect recovery/healing wise from others who’ve had mesh removed successfully. again, thanks for you post(s)

    • #29519
      paul
      Participant

      point of clarification….i had my initial repair done in bend oregon.

    • #29568
      Herniahelper
      Participant

      We would love to hear your story and how things go. Please update us with your progress.

      • #29584
        idoncov
        Participant

        Small world. I had my initial hernia repairs done in Bend, Oregon as well (St Charles Hospital). Both the inguinal and incisional umbilical hernias were repaired with mesh and both failed. That started me on a road of horror that still has not ended. The repairs performed included both Dr Brown and Dr Towfigh.

    • #29569
      JamesDoncaster
      Participant

      I had my mesh removed about 15 months ago. Today, I feel mostly normal and my activities are not limited in any way. The only annoyance I have is a bit of sensitivity to pressure near my pubic bone, and even that seems to be getting a bit better with time.

      Bottom line: I am glad I had my mesh removed.

    • #29609
      paul
      Participant

      today marks one week since my bilateral Bard 3d max, large, mesh was removed. 2 pieces of mesh were installed 6/19 by dr mastrangelo in bend Oregon to repair bilateral inguinal and right side femoral hernias. long story, but never got better and been in constant pain. turns out mesh folded at top and was thought to have been placed too high. dr chen at ucla successfully removed mesh from both sides robotically, found no significant hernias on left (there were allegedly 2 in 2019) and one inguinal and one femoral on the right, which he repaired with much smaller, thinner, lighter, Progrip.

      I am still very sore at incision (4) points, black and blue at abdomen across pubic bone, scrotum purple and swollen as well, but less so incrementally every day. soreness is constant, worse sitting and standing, so try not to do that….I spend the day in recliner, getting up every hour or so to walk a bit.

      any recommendations for recovery appreciated.

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