No mesh hernia surgery with Dr. Brown
11/19/2022 at 1:36 am #33021
I had an indirect hernia for quite a few years and did my due diligence and research before having surgery. I decided against mesh and opted for a pure tissue repair. This forum was very valuable as a resource tool as it provided me with a short list of surgeons adept at “the ancient art” of no mesh pure tissue repair. Dr. Brown, Dr. Kang, Dr. Peterson, etc. were on my list of surgeons. One day God just nudged me and I called Dr. William Brown’s office to schedule an appointment. Dr. Brown performed a Marcy pure tissue repair and all went well, That was several years ago and I have been lifting weights and exercising ever since. I owe Dr. Brown and his excellent staff everything. They gave me my life back. Dr. Brown has recently retired so we’ve lost another (one of the few) no mesh doctor. I was very lucky to have made that appointment when I did. All the best to everyone in their search for a cure
11/19/2022 at 2:15 am #33022WatchfulParticipant
Do you know if it was purely a Marcy repair, or a hybrid with another repair like Desarda? I consulted with him before he retired, also with an indirect hernia. I couldn’t get him to explain clearly what he was going to do in the two consultations that I had with him. Glad it worked out well for you. If it was indeed just a Marcy, then you managed to have it fixed with minimal procedure which is awesome.
11/19/2022 at 2:39 am #33023
Hi Watchful. Actually by the size of the hernia and the location of the bulge I thought I had a direct hernia not an indirect. When Dr. Brown diagnosed it as an indirect hernia not a direct I was pleasantly relieved. An indirect is usually easier to fix than a direct. I happily blurted out “a Marcy repair?” and he answered in the affirmative. That is as far as I inquired or got involved in the surgery part of his work. I don’t know if it was a pure, hybrid or last minute change up. All I know is that he and the team did a great job. I’d never experienced a more positive healthcare experience before or since.
11/19/2022 at 11:24 am #33025
G thanks for posting…curious what nudged you towards Dr Brown…as it appears he has ended the useful lives of several posters here….I interviewd peterson and he was so rude arrogant and uncaring that i made the foolish mistake to have lap mesh surgery with the butcher of Glendale —sam carvajal…also arrogant and pompous…but someone who seemed to have a ton of experience and a pioneer of the allegedly very minimally invasive Sils procedure….picking these surgeons is a real crap shoot….i really liked Dr Koch of biohernia until reading that he butchered someone here….to me Kang remains the slam dunk favorite here. No one seems more dedicated to getting a good outcome.
11/19/2022 at 11:28 am #33026
Also dr towfigh says a Marcy doesnt work with adults….but she also says Desarda is not a well validated technique and pushes dangerous lab mesh surgery….so who knows….we are really just feeling around in the dark as hernia patients its a sad state of affairs
11/19/2022 at 12:00 pm #33027
Hi Chuck. I have a few minutes before work so I will try to answer your questions. I went with Dr. Brown as he was well recommended by past patients and a consistent quest speaker and contributor to this forum. He was anti-mesh and did pure tissue repair only. He also was sought after as a mesh removal surgeon. I never had mesh implanted so my chances were significantly better that those who are damaged by implantation/removal then re-repaired. That seems true for any surgeon’s success rate for patients who go through multiple surgeries for the same thing. They eventually seem to run out of healthy tissue. A hernia talk Forum member that went by the name of Dog convinced me by his story to go to Dr. Brown. Dog is long gone now living a good life thanks to Dr. Brown and his wonderful staff. I’m just returning the favor Dog did for me by sharing my story. I have a full and busy life once again so I probably won’t be on here very much. Who knows maybe never. I wish everyone the best in their search for the key that unlocks their hernia prison. Believe me I’ve been there and it wasn’t fun. I’m just here to say there are answers and solutions to every problem. I think Dr. Kang would be a good choice Chuck. The no mesh surgeons are disappearing faster than the rain forests. As the old ones retire few if any apprentices are being trained in the “ancient art” of no mesh repair. Good luck Chuck.
11/20/2022 at 11:44 am #33037Good intentionsParticipant
Thanks for the follow-up G. It’s good to know that it is possible to have a good hernia repair. There must still be surgeons out there like Dr. Brown. They just need to be sought out.
I wonder if the surgeon who took over Dr. Brown’s practice uses Dr. Brown’s methods. It doesn’t seem like he would. The web site is very confusing, with new material seeming to contradict old material. Laparoscopic and robotic methods depend on the use of mesh.
“About the Doctor
Dr. Richard Nguyen is a board certified General Surgeon and is fellowship trained in Minimally Invasive and Bariatric Surgery from Vanderbilt University. He has helped to pioneer single incision laparoscopic procedures as well as being da Vinci Robot Certified. He currently trains other surgeons in both of these fields, contributing to the further innovation of surgical techniques. Dr. Nguyen has been practicing in San Jose since 2007 and a surgeon since 2001, working with the most cutting-edge techniques available.”
“None of the current meshes are compatible with the body. Because of this, chronic pain is a significant problem. If the benefits of mesh greatly outweighed the difficulties of mesh, then it might make sense to use mesh. But that is not the case! When you compare the results of a sports hernia repair with and without mesh in athletes, the long term results are much better without mesh. None of the Sports Hernia Experts use mesh. Also, when you compare the results of inguinal hernia repairs in young men, the results are better without mesh. In all other groups of patients, non-mesh hernia repairs have less pain than mesh hernia repairs.
Please do not let your surgeon use mesh.”
11/20/2022 at 11:58 am #33038Good intentionsParticipant
I hope you don’t mind my adding a few things to your Topic G. It would be great to find that Dr. Brown’s methods had been fully transitioned to a new surgeon though.
Here is a separate web page about Dr. Nguyen. He seems to be from the weight loss world, like Dr. Billing (who removed the mesh I had).
Another page from Dr. Nguyen’s new practice, the sportshernia web site. It looks promising but it’s hard to tell if these are his thoughts or just left over from the old web site, although Dr. Nguyen’s name is there. It’s promising. I think that he should be on anyone’s “no-mesh” list for a consultation.
“There are two different surgical procedures used to treat sports hernias. One is the open operation. The other is a laparoscopic procedure with mesh. Both can yield excellent results. Dr. Nguyen prefers the open operation.
During the laparoscopic operation, it is difficult to see all the nerves and tendons. Thus some damage may be missed and not treated. The laparoscopic procedure also involves placing a large piece of plastic mesh to reinforce the lower abdominal wall; the muscles are not repaired only patched; the mesh can potentially cause problems from shear stresses and nerve damage and shrinkage. The mesh is tough to remove if it becomes a problem.”
11/22/2022 at 5:49 pm #33064
G—glad you got a good result….but maybe you missed the stories of peter…and a guy named K who the good Dr. Brown basically murdered….sounds like you dodged a big bullet…many say Brown got quite confused at the end and had a hard time explaining what he was going to do….in the case of peter and K he ruined their lives…fortunately he is in california where you can do that and face no consequence whatsoever
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