Mesh
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If you’re going to have an open inguinal removal with a triple neurectomy understand this. You’re going to trade your mesh with paralysis, loss of penial function, more pain and be permanently nerve damaged and disability. Two of us are in this boat and didn’t have to be if the surgeon told us the truth, you better be prepared and in a serious painful position to trade your mesh for these symptoms. If the surgeon forgot to fill you in on this then that’s malicious and criminal in my opinion.
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Thank you JGens that was written very well. It floors me how so many people and doctors know how risky mesh removal is prior to removal when we were told/sold that no one ever got worse after removal. That’s the problem the unrealistic and inflated statistics that site seems to project. Momo25353636 I don’t think you’re reading JGens correctly. If I read that statement prior to my removal, I would be thinking twice because I’m no where near myself after removal. The list is long of how detrimental that procedure was for me. Kudos to JGens for being kind enough to share a realistic and truthful statement that most would simply avoid to do. There seems to be other reasons for pushing mesh removal other than promising patients “instant relief.”
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The mechanism to would be to contact the Nevada Medical Board and ask for all his records then contact the Illinois Medical Board and ask for any criminal activity and malpractice suits. Anyone can write whatever they want about themselves on their own website. The proof is in the patients and past records and real patient testimonials.
My opinion:
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In 2014 he was telling customers that no one ever got worse in all his twenty years of removing mesh and he had his entire staff trained to tell individuals inquiring about mesh removal that people felt “instant” relief from mesh removal.
First off he generalized mesh removal as one size fits all operation and deceitfully used lax terms and slogans to get us to be part of his experiment and case studies. It is not a coincidence that 6 of us found each other in less than a year
in detrimentally worse condition. I understand doctors need to make money I’m fine with that as long as it doesn’t require ruining the quality of human life. The slogans on his site are mispresenting mesh removal and that site should be put to rest just like the shannigans he pulls to get people to do surgery. His reviews are appalling and his past is colorful to put it lightly. He has damaged the reproductive and digestive systems of 7 that I know and he is not disclosing that mesh removal is dangerous instead selling the idea with cheap slogans like mesh removal does not make people worse and
and I will remove your mesh simply because you want it out and that’s dangerois in my opinion. If I asked a doctor to cut my limb of for no reason he should not agree. The medical center called valley view was a sad scene and unsanitary hey handed me a razor with hair on it. Petersen was treating me for staph infection Prior to surgery and performed surgery while I was infected with staph. It’s all on record. Please be very careful and if you need to talk to others I can put you in contact with some patients who had no choice but to search and find eacother for some solid and truthful answers about what just happened to us. We were not receiving truthful or accurate infoemation or any after care.
That website plants seeds about the necessity of mesh removal and lures hopefuls into a worse case scenario. The consultation lacks any information about the negatives of mesh removal or nerve resection it’s all designed to get you in and get him paid.
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Yes Kevin performed the neurectomies. Dr Wright validated that the ilioinguinal and iliohypoghastric and genitofemoeral nerves are in fact not just sensory but motor nerves. They innervate the muscle surrounding the male reproductive organs and cremaster muscle to lift the testicles and hold the
base of the penis firmly to your body. Kevin boasts he has been performing these mesh removals for years and apparently know what happens when he cuts nerves or does not care to disclose the truth about nerve resections as it may frighten a potential patient. He tells patients not to worry about resection as they are only sensory and simply grow back. That is a sales tactic serving his best interest not yours.
I flew to Vegas twice and that man had ample opportunity to judge the ability of my walking skills and for a pay check Kevin put me and another patient in canes and wheelchairs making it uncomfortable to
walk and impossible to have sex. Of course we were concerned about if our privates would be harmed and in the right location but he assured us all is well. Reading his website was the biggest mistake of my life. Letting him touch my body was even a bigger mistake.31/2 years out and I am barely functioning. I was told I would be resuming normal activities in 6-8 weeks and having add at 2 weeks and back at work in 8 weeks. Non of that has happened in over 3 years. Please please please be careful. I am in mess over what I know now is minor pain compared to what mesh removal has done to me. Please understand this information is a coloberation between multiple patients not just my own experience but he experience of 6 others who found each other online after receiving no after care or straight answers by that person.
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Thank you NFG12,
Never cut the nerves. Unless the doctor himself has had it done to him or herself and can explain to you the feeling
from their own personal experience. I knew something fishy was up with this removal doctor having little concern and spending little time discussing the neurectomy, It was obvious. He knew It would have made me walk. I have to live with myself knowing I made the second worst decision of my life. Such an obvious scheme I’m embarrassed I insulted my own intelligence. It’s hard to live with on a daily basis.I’m more opposed of a neurectomy than mesh having gone through both. It is a sickening alternative. I do not want to live anymore because of these neurectomies. It makes having mesh a trip to the day spa compared to having vital major nerves removed:
I’m sorry you had to go through a removal. I think removing mesh in anyway shape or form is awful and a tough decision. I just spoke to another person who had robotic removal and they were not feeling the greatest after either.
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Just my personal opinion and experience:
There’s another side of this mesh problem and that’s the questionable marketing of hernia mesh removal. You have to ask yourself if and when it’s wise to remove the bullet and trust that the doctor who is consulting with you has your best interest and is qualified to successfully diagnose and recognize that you would actually benefit from such a risky and invasive procedure. This site offers multiple opinions from qualified surgeons. I can’t express the importance of that enough.
I feel advocating hernia mesh removal without sufficiently and properly warning people the real risks of removal and neurectomies is only contributing to the problem. I have received calls from lost removal patients who regret having mesh removal, who feel they were misled and sold a dangerous procedure only to be made worse off from listening to a misleading consultation, patients who were abandoned and mistreated for a second time by a surgeon who mis represents and falsely advertises this dangerous procedure on his website.
In my experience and others who I have talked to who have experienced different types of mesh removal:
I didn’t know what torture was until I had my mesh removed. I am only writing this to warn and tell you to be careful of irresponsible mesh removal marketing, consultations and private practice websites that use fear based language and exaggerated success stories and testimonials to lure hopeful mesh victims into removal for seemingly experimental and case study purposes or for profit. Be careful of bait and switch tactics and the false sincerity of surgeons who may behave and have the exact same money motives as the original surgeon who inserted your mesh, possibly taking advantage of what they may see as a new “specialized” market to cash in on.
If a website or surgeon is playing on your emotions and psyche making you wonder if you need to have your mesh removed after 3 months by using slogans like “you don’t have to live with the pain” you may want to ask yourself if it makes sense to endure a 2-3 year worse and torturous recovery or a possible lifetime of worse discomfort, disfunction, disability, disfigurement or dislocation of your private body parts. If you’re lucky enough to even make it through those grueling 2-3 years with your sanity you may be asking yourself why you removed it just to be permanently worse off than before removal.
In my opinion. Please talk to MANY people who experienced whatever type of procedure it is you’re looking to have. Make sure they had your EXACT procedure and were not referred by the doctor or establishment that may be looking for business and ask many professionals and doctors their opinions before searching for answers on the internet where a private practice may be marketing vague, false and luring information based on only their own personal distorted hypothesis and theories vs official publications and facts. I know too many now who have fell into this trap.
“Nothing should take 2-3 years to recover from.” – Dr. Wright
In the future I would like to discuss
why I think doctors avoid the topic of triple neurectomy, (the removal of 3 MAJOR MOTOR and sensory nerves in your groin.) When consulting with their hopefuls.Background checks on your surgeons and why they are important.
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Great answer Dr T. Thats realistic and your consultation on neurectomies is very honest. Question: When you say you present your own data on removals I don’t think it’s clear on why you are just generalizing mesh removal when you’re stating that inguinal hernias are more dangerous than abdominal wall hernias etc. Isn’t important to add more details what kind of removals were done so that patients just don’t think mesh removal is just a one type of procedure?
Also is it possible to clot and die from complications from mesh removal years out of surgery?
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Wow! I didn’t know that about Parietex Pro Grip. “You only get one shot at laying it on right?” How do you even know if the surgeon succeeded? Is he going to tell you? “Oh btw I didn’t lay one of your pieces on right, I’m sorry.” Good God.
They did not think that one through. I would rather use a slicker surface and some dissovable tacks if I were a surgeon.
Dr Towfigh if you remove mesh more than any other surgeon I’m curious why you even use mesh on patients in the first place? -
Post op ilionguinal neurectomy
I’m no doctor but I am a neurectomy patient. Stupid option in my opinion.
My back pain intensified after triple neurectomy, listen to the people who had neurectomeis, please. The reason the pain goes down to his ankles is because the nerve goes to the spine around the L1-L3 weaking it causing it to not be as strong and can collapse or compress disc space and cause disc irritation and tremendous weakness. You weaken those abdominal muscles and cut nerves your spine lacks support, compression sets in,,, it’s so obvious why would a doctor not recognize that? Seems like basic physiology to me.
Weaken the front the back goes out, cut a nerve that goes to the spine and you weaken that muscle…the hip bone is connected to the knee bone.. however the song goes. -
Neurectomy with 2nd surgery
They are not sensory nerves. They serve motor function. I bodybuilded for 10 years and can control and flex every muscle and now I am paralyzed and incapable of innervating my groin muscles which need to be innervated to walk and hold your stomach up.
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Suffocation after Removal
“Well that’s just an onlay mesh removal”
Using the word “Just” in this sentence is offensive. This is exactly what’s wrong with the medical community and exactly
why good people get tricked into life altering and threatening surgeries from believing statements like this from doctors. How could you downplay this procedure?
Have you had one? There are
3 people I talk to weekly who had this done to them who want to end their lives from this procedure, including myself. -
Suffocation after Removal
No it was not sandwich.
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Suffocation after Removal
It was one flat piece.
Stitched in. Had the blue stripes against the clear.What’s the difference?
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Suffocation after Removal
Open, right side prolene ,one piece, put in perfectly and should have left it like that.
My opinion.
Removal is BS and
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Suffocation after Removal
Neurectomies were done during removal and you’re aware of how Kevin performs these.
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Suffocation after Removal
Thank you for checking in Dr. Towfigh
According to 4 specialists here in Seattle the inability to breathe correctly is the result of Petersens removal.
A combination of the neurectomies weaking the wall causing a severe prolapse and the “repair” he does, overlapping muscles so tight and reshaping the groin into a “funnel” pushing everything into the testicles and pelvic floor like a tube of toothpaste so the upper portion of my stomach does not have room to expand because it has shrunk because contents are now lower than before so when I inhale I can’t get a solid breathe or enjoy a simple yawn. I suffocate in some cases passing out. I only experienced this after removal I never had these issues before.
The inhale also pushes into those areas, I can feel intense pressure on the opposite side of repair and into the groin/penis/testicle. The nerves have lost function to innervate the iliac muscle that helps me use my lower back to inhale also. I have a short torso so I needed those nerves. The sensations are truly traumatizing.In my opinion and my doctors mesh and nerve removal should only be done in an emergency situation not “if someone wants it out” or some discomfort. The removal did not benefit me, only added more serious problems and discomfort. Today another patient flies in to stay with me from Colorado and we will be sharing notes, he to is much worse and traumatized from the removal.
Thanks again for checking in. I will send people here if anyone has questions regarding hernias.
2 years of worse torture than mesh.
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Post surgery thoughts
So you’re telling me you like Dr Goodyear? 🙂
I managed to find the 1% of surgeons.Not everyone is as wise as you, I feel a surgeon should lay it all out on the table. Not sit back quietly hoping the patient asks the right questions. They may not be as educated as you and not know what to ask don’t you think? You don’t think surgeons try and sell their procedure to others maybe down playing a neurectomy as “they’re only sensory nerves , they’ll grow back.”? Statements like those to ease or convince a patient it’s going to be ok let me cut you open, it’s my favorite procedure or let me put 3 pieces of mesh in you when you don’t have hernias at all.
99 percent is a generous number sir. It’s driven by dollars. Once you inquire about a possible issue I would say most want to fear you into some kind of treatment.