News Feed Discussions Can we mention the Germans?

  • William Bryant

    Member
    April 28, 2023 at 9:46 am

    Hello Pinto… Yes I write a lot but say very little!!! I know! It’s a ‘gift’. But it is good for insomniacs I suppose.

  • pinto

    Member
    April 28, 2023 at 1:30 am

    @Freeman, I’m glad things are working out for you. Thanks for sharing and in particular the video link.

  • pinto

    Member
    April 28, 2023 at 1:25 am

    Thanks gentlemen @Jack2021, @Good intentions, @William Bryant.
    I play Russian roulette with it finding sometimes even if timed out, window refresh reveals my post; other times nothing. 🙁 It just gets tiring having to copy the message before posting. I’ve yet to encounter the same problem at other websites. Indeed, one website I do, even if your device suddenly turns off your unfinished post still remains at the website.

    William, some of your posts are of considerable length. You must have the luck of the Irish; that’s all I can say.

  • William Bryant

    Member
    April 27, 2023 at 8:34 pm

    I just type really fast! Posts might be semi literate, unintelligible and riddled with errors but not been timed out – yet.

  • Good intentions

    Member
    April 27, 2023 at 5:39 pm

    I select and copy everything that I wrote before I hit the Submit button. I’ve lost a few posts in the past.

  • Jack2021

    Member
    April 27, 2023 at 4:15 pm

    I agree Pinto, it can be really frustrating. It times out pretty quickly. I write my posts separately now and paste them across to avoid it happening.

    It doesn’t seem to like multiple web links either.

  • pinto

    Member
    April 27, 2023 at 3:55 am

    This website IT really sucks. A message I wrote and posted evaporated.

  • Freeman

    Member
    April 27, 2023 at 3:31 am

    I have an other detail to add. The inner sutures are not absorbable in the shouldice technic used for me. They are permanent.

  • Freeman

    Member
    April 27, 2023 at 3:14 am

    Hi Pinto, in the case of my own experience I had few soreness post operative . I took a total amount of 5 Ibuprofene pills the following days. . I have felt and feel less now what I call a “mechanical stretching of sutures” . I mean that when I stretch, twist or take some motions it pull ( gently by now) on the sutures.But when I walk I feel nothing .An other example is coughing and sneezing . Whent it happen I put my hand on the groin but I feel that it is more “solid rock” than the first week where it hurt. The most important is that I don’t feel a pain which could be linked to nerves damages . This is the most serious risk of chronic pain.

  • William Bryant

    Member
    April 27, 2023 at 2:24 am

    Ah, thanks for that Pinto!
    I hadn’t considered it bit it does make sense I think. Even if small I’m not worried about the scar. Here’s why…
    I had surgery and when my GP saw the after math, scar, so to speak he said “god he’s made a right mess of that”! But the procedure itself was good!

    However if a small scar means less pain, it’s win win for Dr Kang.

    By the way, was I right in thinking it was your link to the sketch about hernia mesh surgery being introduced to surgeons? If so would it be possible to post it again. It summed up a lot of things.

  • pinto

    Member
    April 27, 2023 at 2:10 am

    Gentlemen, you’ve gone the wrong way about the cosmetics of scars. After being wheeled in from Kang surgery, I was surprised how beautiful the incision looked. More importantly, however, are two points I believe you guys missed: 1 the bigger the incision the more pain; 2 Kang’s 1 1/2 inch deserves a close look. His and Shouldice’s must be radically different surgery. How is it he manages such a small incision? (rhetorical ques.). It probably explains why his surgeries result in little pain (comparatively speaking). We know from what he says, he thinks Shouldice is a bit too invasive. His IH has been called Marcy but he believes his is considerably different. In time maybe we’ll learn more about it.

  • Oceanic

    Member
    April 27, 2023 at 1:22 am

    Conze is 3 times the cost of Koch or Wiese and probabaly not 3 times the Surgeon but I agree he is quite possibly the best

  • William Bryant

    Member
    April 27, 2023 at 12:35 am

    Brilliant, looking forward to the next update Freeman.

    I’m not too worried about scar either really. A good result is better. I already have a prominent 4 inch scar on stomach. It’ll match!

    Dud you ever consider Dr Lorenz or Dr Conze?

  • Freeman

    Member
    April 26, 2023 at 11:47 pm

    Hi folks,
    My incision is 4 cm long. I think that they don’t use exactly the same shouldice surgery in Germany. For example they have not used steel stiches but thread. I had a surgery for one small inguinal hernia a little bit more complicated because it was both direct and indirect hernia . I don’t care with the size of the incision . If you want a tiny incision try laparascopy , just 3 small holes and a mesh inserted. So you will be beautiful may be sooner than after the souldice surgery. But inside it will not be the same scenery. I don’t know if you have ever seen mesh removed after been inserted for years. It is horrendous. So after 15 days post op my scar is fine , less and less visible.I still have slight disconfort when my body lie down and get up or other motions I do. After 30 days post op I will make a review.

  • Watchful

    Member
    April 26, 2023 at 6:08 pm

    That incision size is normal at the Shouldice Hospital. They are famous for low-recurrence tissue repair; not for being gentle on the patient…

  • Alan

    Member
    April 26, 2023 at 5:52 pm

    Those incisions are huge, is that normal for shouldice! I thought mine were large at 3.5cm :?-?|

  • pinto

    Member
    April 26, 2023 at 4:30 pm

    Everyone take a look at the blog linked by @Freeman!! Are the photos of the patient’s incision scars typical of IH operations??? I didn’t read the blog–maybe the guy had a whale of a hernia. Otherwise it looks like butchery. Just saying.
    (@Freeman, excuse my post, but does your incision(s) similarly look that way, too?)

  • William Bryant

    Member
    April 26, 2023 at 9:14 am

    Hello Freeman, thanks for the report. Could you name the surgeon as it’s very useful to those deciding where to go to know who the praise is for.

    If you read other reports of operations, the surgeon is usually named … Good or bad. As this is a good result ot can only benefit the surgeon and future patients alike.

  • Unknown Member

    Member
    April 26, 2023 at 9:00 am

    Freeman…thanks for posting but good grief…why not mention the name? By “hearty” i am guessing Koch….he seems like a really nice guy…

  • Freeman

    Member
    April 26, 2023 at 7:53 am

    Hi
    I am french and I had a shouldice inguinal hernia surgery 15 days ago in Germany. I mean a pure tissue repair. This surgery has been organised with BIOHERNIA an organisation that schedule the appointments with the surgeons. I can just testify that even if my healing process is not finish I feel great. The afternoon after the morning surgery I have walked 5 kms withou pain. The surgeon ( I will not quote any name) was one of the three highly specialised surgeon that you will find on BIOHERNIA web site. He was very hearty and very professionnal and his team was exactly like him. I remenber he told me just before I felt asleep with anesthesia ” you are in good hands and I will take all the time needed to perform the surgery ” So I don’t know if later I will get some complication like chronic pain but I am deeply convinced that if you carry a piece of plastic mesh inside your groin you will be much more in risk of harsh complications. I mention also that in the USA you will pay may be 3 to 4 times what I have paid. An other good place , I think, for people living in north America is the Shouldice hospital in Toronto. Here is a blog of former patients from Shouldice hospital in Toronto exchanging about their surgery. https://shouldiceherniarepair.wordpress.com/2011/09/08/week-of-surgery-hospitalization/

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